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Again you make assumptions like "It had never rained on the earth", [before Noah] there is no proof of that. In fact I believe that there is nothing in the Bible (King James version or whatever authorized version you want to use) that states that it never rained before Noah but I will give you that maybe it never FLOODED before Noah but that does not in any way shape or from prove your assertion that it NEVER rained at all. People have to drink water to live, where did the water come from if it never rained???? This does not make sense to me. Just because there is no specific mention of rain in the Bible before Noah does not mean it never rained. There are a lot of things, in fact there are an infinate number of things that are NOT mentioned in the Bible. Just because something is NOT mentioned in the Bible does NOT mean it did NOT exist. Again you are using flawed negative arguments to prove a positive which does not make any logical sense. I suppose you can say that you also do not believe in the principals of logical thinking. That is actually a relevant and legitimate argument to make IN my opinion. Nevertheless, I believe in logical thinking, if you do not that is YOUR right and as I believe you said before "we have to agree to dissagree". I COULD argue why I believe I believe in logical thinking, but I am not going to do it on this forum, it would take too much of my time and I do not really care if you personally believe in logical thinking or not but as I said I do so that is why I am using logical thinking to form my opinions.

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You are the one that brought up carbon dating and I asked you to prove your expertise, turning the argument around is not a way to argue. Just because Leviathan is mentioned in the Bible does not mean that it existed. The Bible is a book written by man. Not everything in the Bible can be proved to be true, and that does that mean that is is not true or that it is true . You have to look at other evidence than the Bible to make a judgement on what is true and what is not. Yes we can agree to disagree. However, what bothers me is when some people whoever they are try to push their beliefs on me. You are NOT doing this, I am not refering to you. This is a disscussion group and you are supposed to express your beliefs. However the people that believe that the Adam and Eve story should be taught in public schools are wrong. To be fair you would have to also teach about the great Boba who got a stomach ache and threw up the world. As long as religious doctrine is kept in a house of worship I have no problem with it. This is the United States and we allow people to worship as they choose, again just don't shove it down my throat or my children's throat.

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